Post by Connie on Apr 11, 2008 9:23:32 GMT -5
This one is very convincing! First are emails between a buyer and seller (scammer) at the bottom is an email from Worldpay about the scam. The first emails did not involve me but someone who said they wanted to let the world know so Im borrowing them:
1st Email I wrote them..
Am I reading this ad right? 2001 BMW 325i for $3900? What is wrong with it? I am interested if you can contact me back. Thank you
1st REPLY email..
Hello there,
Sorry for my delayed response, but I'm a soldier detached in England for a long time and I have been very busy for the last couple of days. Anyway, thank you for your interest in buying my BMW. The car is located in US right now and has US papers. Why is the price so low? I had to move out of because of my job and I am going through a divorce. So all that I want to do now is sell the car at this price, because I need to sell it fast. The car is fully payed and you will have absolutely no problems to register the car in the States.
I will tell you a few words about my car:
VIN#: WBAAV33431FU84215 Miles: 66,300
Engine: 6 Cylinders Transmission: Automanual
It is in immaculate condition, no scratch, no need for additional repairs, and hasn't been involved in any accident. The motor runs very well. The interior looks great. The title is clear and on my name, it is not a salvage one. I want this transaction to go smoothly enough as I am caught in the middle of some very important events and have little time at my disposal. I already have tones of emails so I hope you understand that I need to sort them out. The car is ready to be yours, but only if you shall understand and you won't make me loose time as it has already happened to me.
The price is $3,900 USD! THIS IS MY LAST PRICE! I will not negotiate the price!
Also, I take in consideration only those buyers who are really interested in buying the car, to be sure that I'm not waisting my time with endless discussions. This way, I'll be assured of the serious intentions.
So if you are interested please email me!
Please click here for more photos:
s239.photobucket.com/albums/f...t38/?start=all
Kind Regards,
2nd Email I wrote...
Hello,
I am a very serious buyer. If you could please please keep in touch with me, I would really appreciate it. I will not delay you or keep you waiting. I can promise you this will go smoothly. Please, Please, Keep in touch with me. I really need this.
2nd REPLY I got..
Hello there,
Look how we will do this:
Before leaving I had prearranged shipping with WorldPay so my presence in US isn't necessary.
The car is locked in a WorldPay warehouse in US(Texas), ready for delivery. I will offer a 5 day period to test drive the car from the moment you receive it from the shipping company.
So if you want to make this deal I will need the following details from you:
Full Name And Address
Shipping Address
Phone #
After I will have all this details I will forward them to WorldPay and I will proceed the order. The car will arrive to you with a lawyer from WorldPay and he will help you with all the documents including title.
WorldPay will contact you with all the details that you need to complete this deal and also to see that I am covered by them and if I am legit seller. Waiting your email with the requested details...
P.S. For security reasons I'm not allowed to speak on the phone and we will communicate by emails!
Respectfully,
Mike Stephenson
3rd Email I wrote..
That sounds very good. That will give me 5 days to bring it to my mechanic, which is plenty of time. It is not going to be under my name, it will be under my fiance' as he is home for the holidays.
His full name is: XXXXXXXXXXXXXXX
The address is XXXXXXXXXXXXX
This is also the shipping address. XXXXXXXXXXX
Also, I was wondering if you have all the keys for the car?
3rd REPLY I got..
Hello XXXXX,
Yes, I have all the keys.
WorldPay will supervise our transaction and will insure that everything is 100% safe. I forwarded your information to WorldPay. They will shortly contact you with all the transaction details. Please let me know after they will contact you to confirm we have a deal. Please follow their instructions exactly and make the payment. Immediately after they confirm me that they hold your payment, I will proceed with shipping the car to you.
The total price of the car(including ALL taxes and shipping fee) is $3,900.00 USD.
*Note that this is a QUICK SALE, who pays for it - gets it, no questions asked, my terms are clear and if you have the you can have your car!
Respectfully,
Mike Stephenson
WORLD PAY CONTACTS ME..
They Pretty much showed me a fancy email.. saying "Mike Stephenson" is a seal member for a long time.. Gave me phone numbers, Addresses, I was approved, Told me how to do it, it looked VERY CONVINCING! If it wasn't for my fiance' they would have got me!
4th Email I wrote...
Hello Mike,
I am very suspicious of using this website to make this transaction. Is there a different way to do this? I would love to have the car sent to me first so I know that this is legit. If this cannot be done please contact me back for further instruction. I have the and I am waiting to send it to you, I just do not trust this site as there are bogus s like this. Please contact me back ASAP.
Thank You,
XXXXX
4th REPLY I got..
Just follow WorldPay instructions and make the payment!
5th Email I wrote...
Wow ya know, You ALMOST had me. Nice .. Very well put together. I was ALMOST convinced. But almost doesn't count does it? I will be warning everyone about your little you have going on here, as I have saved all the e-mails you have written me. Thank you for wasting MY time and getting MY hopes up. I really hope you are happy with yourself. I hope you feel really good about the you are trying to pull. Again, Thank You for WASTING MY TIME!!!!!!!
"MR. MIKE STEPHENSON" GO TO HE**!
NO REPLY..
Response from Worldpay after someone questioned this type of transaction:
Dear Sir/Mdm,
Thank you for bringing this issue to our attention.
Please be aware that the services mentioned are not the services that WorldPay provides. WorldPay do not own any warehouses. We do not deal with cars/vehicles, neither do we take payments for them. In this case, it is definitely a scam.
WorldPay process credit and debit card payments for online stores only.
We recommend that you do not provide any information to these individuals and that you do not open any attachments from emails they may have sent to you.
If you have already sent to this person money, please contact your bank immediately.
You may also wish to visit our website for more information on precautions you should take when purchasing over the internet:
www.worldpay.com/shopper/index.php?page=safety
Please do not hesitate to contact us if you require any further information.
Best regards,
Hazel
Customer Support
1st Email I wrote them..
Am I reading this ad right? 2001 BMW 325i for $3900? What is wrong with it? I am interested if you can contact me back. Thank you
1st REPLY email..
Hello there,
Sorry for my delayed response, but I'm a soldier detached in England for a long time and I have been very busy for the last couple of days. Anyway, thank you for your interest in buying my BMW. The car is located in US right now and has US papers. Why is the price so low? I had to move out of because of my job and I am going through a divorce. So all that I want to do now is sell the car at this price, because I need to sell it fast. The car is fully payed and you will have absolutely no problems to register the car in the States.
I will tell you a few words about my car:
VIN#: WBAAV33431FU84215 Miles: 66,300
Engine: 6 Cylinders Transmission: Automanual
It is in immaculate condition, no scratch, no need for additional repairs, and hasn't been involved in any accident. The motor runs very well. The interior looks great. The title is clear and on my name, it is not a salvage one. I want this transaction to go smoothly enough as I am caught in the middle of some very important events and have little time at my disposal. I already have tones of emails so I hope you understand that I need to sort them out. The car is ready to be yours, but only if you shall understand and you won't make me loose time as it has already happened to me.
The price is $3,900 USD! THIS IS MY LAST PRICE! I will not negotiate the price!
Also, I take in consideration only those buyers who are really interested in buying the car, to be sure that I'm not waisting my time with endless discussions. This way, I'll be assured of the serious intentions.
So if you are interested please email me!
Please click here for more photos:
s239.photobucket.com/albums/f...t38/?start=all
Kind Regards,
2nd Email I wrote...
Hello,
I am a very serious buyer. If you could please please keep in touch with me, I would really appreciate it. I will not delay you or keep you waiting. I can promise you this will go smoothly. Please, Please, Keep in touch with me. I really need this.
2nd REPLY I got..
Hello there,
Look how we will do this:
Before leaving I had prearranged shipping with WorldPay so my presence in US isn't necessary.
The car is locked in a WorldPay warehouse in US(Texas), ready for delivery. I will offer a 5 day period to test drive the car from the moment you receive it from the shipping company.
So if you want to make this deal I will need the following details from you:
Full Name And Address
Shipping Address
Phone #
After I will have all this details I will forward them to WorldPay and I will proceed the order. The car will arrive to you with a lawyer from WorldPay and he will help you with all the documents including title.
WorldPay will contact you with all the details that you need to complete this deal and also to see that I am covered by them and if I am legit seller. Waiting your email with the requested details...
P.S. For security reasons I'm not allowed to speak on the phone and we will communicate by emails!
Respectfully,
Mike Stephenson
3rd Email I wrote..
That sounds very good. That will give me 5 days to bring it to my mechanic, which is plenty of time. It is not going to be under my name, it will be under my fiance' as he is home for the holidays.
His full name is: XXXXXXXXXXXXXXX
The address is XXXXXXXXXXXXX
This is also the shipping address. XXXXXXXXXXX
Also, I was wondering if you have all the keys for the car?
3rd REPLY I got..
Hello XXXXX,
Yes, I have all the keys.
WorldPay will supervise our transaction and will insure that everything is 100% safe. I forwarded your information to WorldPay. They will shortly contact you with all the transaction details. Please let me know after they will contact you to confirm we have a deal. Please follow their instructions exactly and make the payment. Immediately after they confirm me that they hold your payment, I will proceed with shipping the car to you.
The total price of the car(including ALL taxes and shipping fee) is $3,900.00 USD.
*Note that this is a QUICK SALE, who pays for it - gets it, no questions asked, my terms are clear and if you have the you can have your car!
Respectfully,
Mike Stephenson
WORLD PAY CONTACTS ME..
They Pretty much showed me a fancy email.. saying "Mike Stephenson" is a seal member for a long time.. Gave me phone numbers, Addresses, I was approved, Told me how to do it, it looked VERY CONVINCING! If it wasn't for my fiance' they would have got me!
4th Email I wrote...
Hello Mike,
I am very suspicious of using this website to make this transaction. Is there a different way to do this? I would love to have the car sent to me first so I know that this is legit. If this cannot be done please contact me back for further instruction. I have the and I am waiting to send it to you, I just do not trust this site as there are bogus s like this. Please contact me back ASAP.
Thank You,
XXXXX
4th REPLY I got..
Just follow WorldPay instructions and make the payment!
5th Email I wrote...
Wow ya know, You ALMOST had me. Nice .. Very well put together. I was ALMOST convinced. But almost doesn't count does it? I will be warning everyone about your little you have going on here, as I have saved all the e-mails you have written me. Thank you for wasting MY time and getting MY hopes up. I really hope you are happy with yourself. I hope you feel really good about the you are trying to pull. Again, Thank You for WASTING MY TIME!!!!!!!
"MR. MIKE STEPHENSON" GO TO HE**!
NO REPLY..
Response from Worldpay after someone questioned this type of transaction:
Dear Sir/Mdm,
Thank you for bringing this issue to our attention.
Please be aware that the services mentioned are not the services that WorldPay provides. WorldPay do not own any warehouses. We do not deal with cars/vehicles, neither do we take payments for them. In this case, it is definitely a scam.
WorldPay process credit and debit card payments for online stores only.
We recommend that you do not provide any information to these individuals and that you do not open any attachments from emails they may have sent to you.
If you have already sent to this person money, please contact your bank immediately.
You may also wish to visit our website for more information on precautions you should take when purchasing over the internet:
www.worldpay.com/shopper/index.php?page=safety
Please do not hesitate to contact us if you require any further information.
Best regards,
Hazel
Customer Support