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Post by havingfunnow on Oct 26, 2008 21:10:49 GMT -5
I have never heard the term "find the rigor in morits" I hope it's good Thanks for the info Eileen, I will patiently wait for Dan's response. Toora Loora Toora Loo-Rye Aye - Dexys Midnight Runners Louis Dan! Dan! Where are you? ***SIGH***
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Post by glitch00 on Oct 27, 2008 4:11:47 GMT -5
I used to e-mail dan alot before since he asked me questions about my team. He said he's been busy in another forum, but forgot what that was. That's all I know and I think Eileen may know more.
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Post by mainah07 on Oct 31, 2008 8:29:32 GMT -5
Hi Dan I am def. interested in this and from the people on this thread it seems they are very into it. I was wondering how things are goinig now you know with people signing up. I noticed this thread started in July and its now October and there seems to be less and less post.
Eileen and Connie are you noticing results with your downline? Are you still as involved with this as you were?
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Post by keepitlegit8 on Oct 31, 2008 19:46:55 GMT -5
Dan, As it has been noted, this is an honest site - no SCAM no SPAM allowed. I am not accusing you of this at all. But I have some questions, as a result of researching this opportunity. And I don't think that I am the only one here who does. We tend to be a gun-shy, cautious lot. I have gone to the site to check this out, and I must say I was very impressed. I checked on the requirements and became a little confused as it is aimed at charitable organizations. So I says to myself, "Self, are we a charitable organization?", and although I am a disabled veteran, I had to answer "No". Then I thought 'Dan has really been putting a lot of work into this, and must have an explanation', so I thought "Self, let's ask him'. I am also posing the same question to those who have joined the organization prior to Dan posting this thread, and wanting to switch over. There is a corporate side to this program, but we don't fit there either. No one wants the SURGANS. I find this a very interesting proposition, as I can't really think of a day when I do less than 60-70 Internet searches. (And that's when I am not researching) The spousal unit has told me to tell you that I am not doing this research for just my own benefit, but I have compatriots who are very interested in what I am discovering. We are webmasters, security managers, programmers, network administrators, database administrators, software and hardware technicians, and consultants. We have a standard of integrity that is very high, and do not want to become involved in anything that is not above board. We have certifications that would be placed at risk, and we will not risk them. Now Connie is thinking...Hmmmm...I knew there was something about that guy. He's a Geek. - No! We are better than the Geek Squad. Another issue I think has not been spelled out clearly, which answers the questions of proof of payment, is that there is a waiting period before payment is made. This proposition takes commitment, and perseverance, as there is a 45 day wait for payout of the previous month's activities. So, if I join at the begining of the cycle, I will not see results until 2 1/2 months later. But then I will be in the cycle, and get paid on a monthly basis. Also, the payments are made BACS (English equivalent of EFT), so the payment goes straight into the bank. I do not think they BACS to Paypal, but I don't know. As I said, this will take commitment and foresight on the part of people who are serious about doing this. Until I get a satisfactory answer to my question posed above, I will have to answer no, even though this is probably the best offer I have seen yet. Kudos to you for the effort you have put in to this so far. The saddest part about this, is that this could only be the tip of the iceberg, as far as the possibilities of this team. It is a great concept. So I really hope you can give me a satifactory answer, that I can relay to others. Have a good day, ;D Louis P.S. A DOS attack = Denial Of Service. This takes planning, as it involves hijacking computers on the Internet and having them swamp the IP addresses of a an existing website, overwhelming the servers and shutting them down. There are groups of people, who do this just for fun. Both Yahoo and Google have fallen prey to these kind of attacks, and have put up better security measures to prevent them. There is an ongoing Internet war, between the good techies and the bad techies, that most people don't even know about. Sorry, so long, but Dan's Myspace is longer. LOL Sorry to take so long in getting back to you on this! As Eileen has already informed you, I've been EXTREMELY busy with my baby sister's getting married, entertaining family from down south after the big event for a few days and trying to catch up with all of my roughly 20 different accounts lol. On top of that I've started back in with a personal training job part time to earn some extra cash for the holidays. Before I address your concerns, let me just reassure you and everyone else that I am indeed not only legit, but truly looking to help EVERYONE involved in this team.... so long as we can all do our part (which will be SIMPLE for the overwhelming majority- the exception being myself and my advertising team). There are people on here who'll attest to the fact that I in fact DO place people into downlines and try to build the network up for the betterment of all involved. I'm sure there are also several people with whom I've been in contact on here who would be quick to tell you that I am certainly NOT the type to scam or spam.... just trying to do my part and focus some power into the hands of the average American struggling to get by (or just looking to be ambitious and make some extra spending cash) lol. Anyhoo.... I'll get right into your questions... 1) Yes, these sites are all advertised as ways to earn money for charities... the way they're usually set up: the charity sets up a deal with the site so that when they send their supporters there to do searches, the income generated from their activity is split between the charity and the site. The site, in turn, sets up a deal with partners or advertisers who'll wind up funding everything. In this case the site is partnered with Yahoo; you're actually routed through to Yahoo's search engine when you do a search and the results are Yahoos. Yahoo winds up funding it all... and before you can say to yourself.... "self, I wonder why that is?" (lol), let me explain simply that it all comes down to ad revenue. Yahoo is constantly competing with Google for top-dog status in the world of search engine traffic. Advertisers, as I'm certain you're aware, always want to go where the most traffic is going to see their ads.... so they'll pay Yahoo, Google and the other giants to have their links and ads displayed on their pages. Yahoo, in an effort to earn more by boosting traffic, is willing to pay Homepages for their service of providing the "clients" necessary to do the "work" to boost said traffic. They wind up paying Homepages @ $0.075/search done, and Homepages in turn pays US @ 1/2 of that. In the meantime, that investment boosts Yahoo's traffic, so they pay out pennies and earn dollars, so they make out in the deal as well. Plus the advertisers make out because they're still getting their ads across to the masses through Yahoo. These sites are NORMALLY setup to work directly with charities, and you can certainly find a NUMBER of them if you do a little searching. Some are setup such that YOU earn the money and it's up to YOU to determine how much is given to charity and how much goes to yourself. Others ARE setup so that you have no say... you simply search and earn for the charity that has the deal in place. Honestly, I have no idea what charity Homepages is supposed to be with.... I think it's just that they offer to setup programs that work on behalf of charities..... I know that what those before me and everyone currently involved with me are doing is amassing a nice donation to our OWN fund.... maybe "The Dan Christmas Fund" lol! 2) In regards to the payment system..... yeah, I agree that the lag period stinks... but it is still a relatively small company in terms of STAFFING; while it's membership is well over 200,000 at this point. It takes them a while to get everything done. Plus, they have a system in place to try and prevent click fraud, so the delay period is in place to give them time to go through accounts and ensure that someone isn't just trying to screw them with use of bots or anything, and also to ensure that they're legit searches (they're validated when you click on one of the resultant pages and let it load). They DO pay via PayPal, actually. The combination of the facts that they're trusted enough to be able to partner with PayPal and Yahoo does a TON in my eyes for showing their credibility. Plus, I'd researched them for over a month before joining after I'd first heard about it. I've spoken with several people who've made some nice money with the site (not just EARNED, but PAID to their PayPal). I've accrued what with the exchange rate will come out to @ $135 so far (based almost ENTIRELY on my OWN efforts, as we've been having trouble with commitment issues from new members), and am due to be paid anytime in the next week. I'll be certain to keep everyone posted when I receive my transfer. I'm glad that you've seen the big picture and what I'm attempting to acheive here with the formation of this team! This truly IS what I hope is just the start of something HUGE for everyone involved. We can form an entire network of people teaming up to form intricate system with a number of legit programs, in which we do legit "work" and earn some nice extra cash to make it worthwhile for EACH of us based on the strength of numbers. I'd LOVE to have you and your comrades on board!! The possibilities with YOU all on board would be truly ASTOUNDING! I understand you completely with not wanting to risk your rep. Trust me, I value MINE quite a bit as well lol! I have no problem giving people multiple ways of contacting me, or giving them access to a number of ways to look into me to see that I'm legit. This is simply because I'm NOT trying to get one over on anyone. I'm passionate about what I'm doing.... trying to be a puzzle piece who'll work with and organize a bunch of other pieces so we can combine to form something truly great (and LUCRATIVE) for every piece. If you look at a list of the things I've been currently into online, you'll notice that not a ONE of them has the potential to make me any significant money acting alone. I'm casting my lot in with the rest of you.... we'll all succeed or fail together.... none of this nonsense where people are made to feel like they're only there to serve to help someone ELSE make out on a deal! Thank you for the compliment on the work I've done thus far... but I have to say (and am PROUD to say) that it hasn't been done alone. I've got a small team that I've assembled to help with the advertising. Someone like yourself and your friends, with your knowledge of all things online, would be a VERY welcome addition to the team; and I'm certain with your efforts we could exponentially increase our team growth rate! I look forward to hearing back from you.... any questions, I'm more than glad to answer to the best of my ability. Being I don't really get on here very often, feel free to write to my personal email account (tenorman8@ymail.com) for faster responses though lol! I can then simply copy and paste questions and answers to this thread for all to see. I'd LOVE for there to be a day when each and every person on this and several other forums who're legitimately looking to earn an honest supplemental income online find ourselves on one common team, with one common goal: working for FREE and earning money for the betterment of EVERYONE! Happy Halloween folks -Dan
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Post by keepitlegit8 on Oct 31, 2008 20:02:47 GMT -5
Hi Dan I am def. interested in this and from the people on this thread it seems they are very into it. I was wondering how things are goinig now you know with people signing up. I noticed this thread started in July and its now October and there seems to be less and less post. Eileen and Connie are you noticing results with your downline? Are you still as involved with this as you were? Yes, things did die down on here quite a bit with posts. I think this is largely because when I was first presenting the idea there were a LOT of questions. Now that I've answered them and posted them on here, I just don't think there are as many questions to go around lol. As for recruitments..... there are periods where it goes okay, periods where there just don't seem to be too many interested people and even an occasional day where I may have 1/2 a dozen new prospects. However, I'm averaging @ 1/2 a dozen correspondences with EACH prospect before they'll sign up (and not all do), so it's going VERY slowly. As I've stated time and again, in order for this to REALLY take off and for the team to grow as rapidly as possible, EVERYONE has to do their part (searching and SPREADING THE WORD). When only myself and my four advertising colleagues are involved in attempting to inform new prospects, it's going to take quite some time lol! However, we continue to press on and do our part to try and make the team work. I think it's just TOO good of an idea to let it go because it's not working as quickly as one would like. So if you or anyone else reading this knows anyone who would be willing to diligently spare literally 5 minutes/day to earn $1 and would do their part in simply telling OTHERS about what we're trying to do, I'd LOVE to have you on board lol!
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Post by havingfunnow on Nov 1, 2008 0:24:27 GMT -5
Dan,
Thank you for your response to my question, although it was not answered entirely to my satisfaction. It answers it enough for me to start, I can't speak for others I am in contact with. My rep is not at risk, but a lifetime certification. I understand Internet marketing, the reasons for having lots of hits, 'sitcky' sites, affiliate marketing, Trojans (No Connie - not that kind), Hijackers, etc... So the payment rates are perfectly legitimate. I will be sending you an email requesting to join. Once I learn more on your operation, I may have some ideas to help - if you don't mind.
But a quick summation of what I'm joining is: I join your team, and get placed in someone's downline. Others who join the team, will be placed in my downline, and who in turn will have others placed in their downline. No timeline is given for filling out my downline, but that is to be expected, as that will be dependent on the number of people joining the team. I will be expected to do a minimum of 28 searches a day using a search engine based off of Yahoo. This will result in a minimum earnings of $30 per month, not including downline earnings. (More than I make from many survey sites, and with less time and effort). I will be paid on a monthly basis (Paypal), starting 45 days after the end of my first 'earning' period. If I miss a day, I will just not be paid for that day - no other penalty. Once the team is filled out, the target is $600 month.
Did I miss anything? Oh yeah, the end result will be a team of committed individuals who could become a power block in other endeavors. This is not a get quick rich proposition, and will require effort on everyone's part. But the effort will be less than what many people are doing already for less.
Louis
And I will be posting progress in this endeavor, as I am sure others will also.
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Post by Organized Chaos on Nov 1, 2008 18:07:18 GMT -5
If I may ask, what's turning people away from this?
You mentioned days when you have 1/2 dozen new prospects and corresponding with each one a half dozen times. If these people are interested and correspond with you several times, what's turning them off to the opportunity? We see that recruitment isn't going as good as you'd like so I can't help but wonder why.
I'm pretty new to the WAH game so someone can explain a system to me, but that doesn't mean I'll understand. So if I see people who know what they're talking about say no to this idea, I value their opinion as to why they said no.
If you do more than the minimum of 28 searches/day, do you make more?
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Post by keepitlegit8 on Nov 19, 2008 12:42:09 GMT -5
Dan, Thank you for your response to my question, although it was not answered entirely to my satisfaction. It answers it enough for me to start, I can't speak for others I am in contact with. My rep is not at risk, but a lifetime certification. I understand Internet marketing, the reasons for having lots of hits, 'sitcky' sites, affiliate marketing, Trojans ( No Connie - not that kind), Hijackers, etc... So the payment rates are perfectly legitimate. I will be sending you an email requesting to join. Once I learn more on your operation, I may have some ideas to help - if you don't mind. But a quick summation of what I'm joining is: I join your team, and get placed in someone's downline. Others who join the team, will be placed in my downline, and who in turn will have others placed in their downline. No timeline is given for filling out my downline, but that is to be expected, as that will be dependent on the number of people joining the team. I will be expected to do a minimum of 28 searches a day using a search engine based off of Yahoo. This will result in a minimum earnings of $30 per month, not including downline earnings. (More than I make from many survey sites, and with less time and effort). I will be paid on a monthly basis (Paypal), starting 45 days after the end of my first 'earning' period. If I miss a day, I will just not be paid for that day - no other penalty. Once the team is filled out, the target is $600 month. Did I miss anything? Oh yeah, the end result will be a team of committed individuals who could become a power block in other endeavors. This is not a get quick rich proposition, and will require effort on everyone's part. But the effort will be less than what many people are doing already for less. Louis And I will be posting progress in this endeavor, as I am sure others will also.Well done... you nailed it... ALMOST completely right. The only part that needs any correcting is the payment line. At @ 28 searches/day you'd be earning $30, but that's only equivalent to @ 15 pounds (this is a British site, don't forget). The minimum for payment eligibility is 20 pounds, so at that rate you wouldn't be getting paid every month, but rather at the end of every month in which you'd accrued a minimum of 20 pounds. The most important part of what you've summarized is right in that last paragraph: EVERYONE who comes to this site is looking for the same thing: ways to make legitimate money online. Whether it be a few extra bucks to spend on the weekends, $500 extra to help with the bills or even a full blown income of $3K/month, we're ALL looking to make money. So what I'm proposing is that we STOP looking at one another as COMPETITION and start simply working TOGETHER towards a goal that we ALL share! Everyone here knows that money can be made off of surveys, PTC sites, GPT sites, PTR sites, PTS sites..... but what VERY few of us know is just HOW MUCH can be made.... largely because we all spend so much time in COMPETITION with "the other guy" for referrals. So what happens? A FEW people wind up with TONS of referrals and can literally change their life off of everyone ELSE'S efforts alone. The OVERWHELMING MAJORITY, however, continue to struggle, both to find referrals and to make it WORTH their while on the given sites. They'll have the dedication to spend several HOURS each day on given tasks, only to make a few extra bucks from it all, as they have little or absolutely no help coming from the strength in numbers phenomenon. In the end, MOST will simply drop out, before they can even reach a single payout (why do you think the minimums are always so high?! Sites make a KILLING off of people who start out with them and then dropout, as they never have to pay!) Then after a few months of being discouraged, they'll likely sign up for some NEW site that offers them that glimmer of hope again. My goal is to STOP with this cycle of nonsense and help EVERYONE to be successful. The goal of ANY recruiter is to find a base of people who've got the dedication and drive to succeed, along with the diligence to stay true to the task. Folks, this is a forum with THOUSANDS of people who all HAVE those qualities. We ALL want a better life, and are willing to do what it takes to get there (otherwise we wouldn't have taken the time to find this place). So why not FINALLY decide to simply work TOGETHER to make a difference in each other's lives?! It'll start out small, with only one venture going at this point, but IMAGINE the possibilities if we spread out this true TEAM mentality and applied it to PTCs, GPTs and the like.....! Imagine if each of us took part in even a simple referral exchange system with PTCs that would allow us all to have a dozen referrals on each of a dozen legit sites! Now those days of WASTING an hour to click on all the ads for 20 sites to make a total of $2 would be WORTH it! And just IMAGINE the possibilities with moderate downlines when applied to the GPTs!! THAT is the goal I'm aiming for here folks: a TEAM where success is possible for ALL involved; and where ALL that's necessary to succeed are the cooperation and dedication to repeat a number of simple tasks daily (something we're ALL doing already with various ventures) of its members. If we can mobilize to that end, there's no reason why we CAN'T each be making a LOT more money through these simple online "businesses."
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Post by keepitlegit8 on Nov 19, 2008 13:16:23 GMT -5
If I may ask, what's turning people away from this? You mentioned days when you have 1/2 dozen new prospects and corresponding with each one a half dozen times. If these people are interested and correspond with you several times, what's turning them off to the opportunity? We see that recruitment isn't going as good as you'd like so I can't help but wonder why. I'm pretty new to the WAH game so someone can explain a system to me, but that doesn't mean I'll understand. So if I see people who know what they're talking about say no to this idea, I value their opinion as to why they said no. If you do more than the minimum of 28 searches/day, do you make more? That's a tough question to answer, as I can't get into everyone's heads to know why they pass on an opp or take a shot. A more simple way to answer would be to ask YOURSELF that. Not to pick you out of the bunch, but I recall you've been one of the many asking questions for a LONG time now, yet failed to act. If I had to venture a guess I'd go with the innate skepticism that we all have now based on all of the scams and lies that have come before. That, or fear of the unknown leading to the dreaded "paralysis by analysis." The fact of the matter is that there IS nothing to fear here. The site's free, nothing is asked of you to join the team (besides dedication and helping to spread the word) and I've been keeping true to my word on my end with giving out referrals (whether or not they remain ACTIVE is beyond my control). The fact that it's taking quite some time to recruit them DOES weigh in on actives going inactive, but that too is beyond my control. As stated, when I need to spend at least 3 hours or so worth of my time spread out over a week or two to recruit each new team member, it's CLEARLY taking a LONG time to grow the team. As for the searches, yeah, you earn based on the number that you do: with the exchange rate @ $0.036/search.
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Post by havingfunnow on Nov 19, 2008 14:49:35 GMT -5
I would like to weigh in on this again. I contacted Dan, and he did reply. I did not clearly say I was interested, so he did not send me the information I needed to get started. LOL So I contacted him again, and he sent me the information to get started. I was not able to pursue this avenue through NO FAULT of Dan's, but one of mine. (Not really a fault though) I have been resisting the ever increasing Microsoft monopoly for years and years, even though I have had to stay current for work, my home system has been stable with Windows ME. Not many people use it, and therefore it is pretty virus safe - nobody bothers with programming a virus for an OS with so few users. (My co-workers have gotten hit many more times than I) The application used by homepages requires Windows 5.0 or better, which is Windows 2000 and up. I have the operating systems Windows 2000, Windows XP Professional (I will not even bother with Vista, although I know it well - too well - I will hold out for Windows 7.0), but I am resisting upgrading my system since I would like to buy a new one early next year. I may upgrade my system if I can find PC100 256 MB RAM cheap enough, but if I upgrade the OS without upgrading the RAM, my system would just crawl. So I am unable to pursue this opportunity for now, but I plan on doing so in the future. I like this for Internet searching because it is better than the uncertainty of Search & Wins, and the opportunity to be part of a larger team. Just my opinion, Louis
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Post by geto81 on Nov 19, 2008 21:57:23 GMT -5
Once todays searches credit I will be halfway to the cashout minimum. I haven't been able to give it the amount of time I would like but I am on it hard trying to reach minimum by the end of the month. It does take a little time do do all the searches but it isn't bad. I think this could really have potential. Dan also gives tips on doing your searches that I am finding to be really useful.
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Post by evlknvl on Nov 21, 2008 6:10:27 GMT -5
Hey Dan, Would you mind sending me the search guide as I am struggling, LOL. Thanks, email is evlknvl666@yahoo.com.au. Scott.
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Post by chrissyinc on Jan 4, 2009 13:02:16 GMT -5
I was just curious, has anyone been paid from them yet? I joined back in Sept. and did tons of searches and was reprimanded by the homepages people. I still continue to do a few until I get paid. But as most of you who have joined you could see that if you didn't make the quota of 20 pounds you would not get paid. Well I made 24 pounds in Sept. and Oct. and they said I would get paid the 16-31 of Dec. for Sept ~ Oct pay period. I keep checking everyday and nothing. It still reads that payment will be made the 16-31 of Dec. Was just wondering what has happened for the rest of you?
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Post by havingfunnow on Jan 4, 2009 16:21:56 GMT -5
...did tons of searches and was reprimanded by the homepages people... Why were you reprimanded Homepages gets their payments from the Search Engine (Yahoo), which pays them according to the traffic that they generate. There are rules, like not searching the same things over and over, but if you are doing different searches, then this is not making sense to me. Please keep us informed on the status of your payment. They are supposed to pay PayPal, so now I am really curious.
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Post by chrissyinc on Jan 5, 2009 17:23:29 GMT -5
Louis, This was the letter they sent to me. (I also forwarded it to Dan) I was doing the searches like he had said to do them only I was doing soap opera people and not musicians. One day I did go over 100 by 2. I always kept it between 25-65 searches a day though. Dear Customer, Thank you for registering with our services for the following account: ID. - As part of our ongoing review of search traffic through our service it is apparent that your search activity is in breach of our terms and conditions. We are receiving from you a type of traffic of which the quality is less than that which we determine, in our absolute discretion, to be acceptable. If this situation continues we will be obliged to terminate your service. Review Department myhpf.co.uk.com e. review@myhpf.co.uk.com I am also a garden enthusiast so I was looking up all different kinds of trees, flowers, bugs, etc. I also checked and I am showing nothing for Jan. Everything is still in the 2008 yr. So Idk.
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