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Post by weebitty on Dec 18, 2008 12:45:53 GMT -5
news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081218/ap_on_go_ca_st_pe/clinton_foundation_donors This would raise serious doubts in my mind. And they don't pay any taxes on this money!!! And all the donations are from foreign countries. Boy another scam artist in government. I don't know if I copied the link right to the article but it was on yahoo news healines this morning. Hope you all saw it. Goldman saks is using government aid money to give bonuses to thier people. Oops government you screwed up again. What else is new. I just thought you all should know this in case you missed it on the news. I hope all of you have a nice christmas and safe and healthy 2009.
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Post by eileen on Dec 18, 2008 23:10:18 GMT -5
What does the government wall street bail out have to do with The Clinton Foundation. Yeah he gets money from foreign governments for foreign projects and domestic projects. Money comes in from the mega rich to make themselves feel better as well. A friend of my daughters' named Eric is in Africa right now as a project leader. Using Clinton Foundation money to try to help the victims of the Darfur massacre's. That's a Good Thing.
Like Jimmy Carter before him, he is doing more good after being President then he possibly did as President. Not to mention the article said Clinton was releasing all this information for scrutiny. Where is the scam in that? The Clinton's actually are one of the reasons American have any good will left in the world. Old Bill does some good stuff with that money. It is not his personal money. He makes that with speeches, books and the like.
The Bush administration on the other hand snuck a loophole into the Task Fund that would allow money to be spent on bonuses if no money was spent on auctions to buy up bad issues. This is a Bad Thing.
The only thing these two have in common is that they were both a President.
One got head and tried to lie about it and was almost impeached. One did lie about just about everything and keeps getting away with it so far.
All things aside, you have a great holiday too.
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Post by havingfunnow on Dec 18, 2008 23:32:09 GMT -5
I did not like Carter's Presidency, but I do approve of what he has done since. I did not like Clinton's Presidency, and I'm skeptical on some of the things he has done since. However, he has done good things that I have to grudgingly agree with. Don't ya just hate that? I do I am reserving judgement on Obama's Presidency, because it hasn't started yet. As far as Republican Presidencies - It's all good! Come on Eileen...breathe...breathe slower...watch your blood pressure
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Post by Organized Chaos on Dec 19, 2008 14:04:39 GMT -5
The Clinton's actually are one of the reasons American have any good will left in the world. LMAO One got head and tried to lie about it and was almost impeached. Almost?? Hate to break it to you, he WAS impeached. One did lie about just about everything and keeps getting away with it so far. When do we get to stop hearing this out of people? When will diehard Dems & Libs ever come up with something new to complain about? The man has a few short weeks left in office. You're going to beat this dead horse till the end huh. Did he lie about Iraq? Did he tell America that HE went over there and saw the WMD's with his own eyes? No, he acted on national and world intelligence. Even the Democrats' precious Bill Clinton said Saddam had them. The world said he had them. For crying out loud, we sold him some. Like him or not, I'm glad we had a President that would choose to do what's right no matter what the naysayers thought of him. Too many dictate their actions by how it will affect their approval rating. It's a shame we have to elect politicians as Presidents when what we need are real men. (not an insult to women)
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Post by eileen on Dec 19, 2008 14:38:44 GMT -5
Louis thanks for the worry about my blood pressure. Its okay for the most part. Last night President Bush took another stab at medical rights, last week he told Mining Co's they can dump slugg into the Water System that serve the entire South West. Very few people actually believe that any of the evidence to propose war was not manufactured. (See Downing Street Memos)There is too much solid evidence against your case. President Bush lied. He is causing harm with everyday he is left in office and he doesn't seem to care. I disagree; President Bush cares a lot about what people think. He says so often that history will look on him with favor that it is almost sad. And you got me on syntax. Clinton was brought up on Impeachment proceedings. If he had been impeached, he would have been kicked out of office.
We disagree,that is aparent but this forum is not the place to get in depth because it will just get to hot. I like this place to much to bring that much heat to it. See you on Scam.com were the animals go to play.
I wasn't holiday depressed till last night with that new assault on my rights and then this morning with the confirmation that the bones were in fact Caylee's.
I am going to go start a thread about happy stuff. Best of wishes to you all.
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Post by havingfunnow on Dec 19, 2008 23:45:36 GMT -5
...We disagree,that is aparent but this forum is not the place to get in depth because it will just get to hot. I like this place to much to bring that much heat to it. See you on Scam.com were the animals go to play... They won't let me play there Do you have to be a member to post I disagree that we can't have HOT discussions! We just need someone brave enough to start a thread about it in Hot Topics - no holds barred, rip-roaring discussion about right, wrong, left, right, up, down, and you shake it all about...That's what it's all about. Our commonality is that we (SURGANS) have a goal of finding ways to generate income from home, that involves no cost. Although good deals make their way on to the board! However, that is not to say that we are all the same. We have had many high-spirited discussions in Hot Topics, and I hope we continue to do so. The nice thing about these discussions as opposed to other boards, is that there is no name calling or degrading of another's views. Some people think I'm skeptical, but I say the glass is half-full or the glass is just too d*mn big!
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Post by Connie on Dec 21, 2008 20:40:44 GMT -5
Louis is right Eileen.. Im leaving this discussion to all of you but the only thing you can do at scam.com that can't be done here is the cussing, swearing, and name calling.. "No Holds Barred" was created when scam.com was down for months and people were looking for a place to have their "bold" discussions. The other difference is that HERE we keep it in no holds barred and are all adult enough to not let it carry over into the other areas of the board... so GO for it!
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Post by Organized Chaos on Dec 24, 2008 12:29:11 GMT -5
And you got me on syntax. Clinton was brought up on Impeachment proceedings. If he had been impeached, he would have been kicked out of office. We disagree,that is aparent but this forum is not the place to get in depth because it will just get to hot. I like this place to much to bring that much heat to it. See you on Scam.com were the animals go to play. To impeach a President is simply to officially charge them with a crime. Said President does not have to be removed from office to have been impeached. Pres. Clinton was in fact impeached. impeach - 1 a: to bring an accusation against b: to charge with a crime or misdemeanor ; specifically : to charge (a public official) before a competent tribunal with misconduct in office
This is an excerpt from Bill Clinton's bio on whitehouse.gov... In 1998, as a result of issues surrounding personal indiscretions with a young woman White House intern, Clinton was the second U.S. president to be impeached by the House of Representatives.www.whitehouse.gov/history/presidents/bc42.htmlI do not frequent scam.com and when I go it's only to look up info. So I guess you and the other animals will have to do it w/o me. Eileen, with all do respect, you posted your opinion and I don't think it's fair of you to say this isn't the place to get in depth AFTER you said your piece and because I said mine. But thankfully Obama will be in office soon. All will be right in the world. Gas will be .50/gallon, poor people like myself will become well off, there'll be peace in the Middle East and we'll all be healthy as an ox with free Government health care.
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Post by eileen on Dec 24, 2008 12:36:51 GMT -5
I never knew you were into blood sport Connie. You know me, I will take on almost any subject I feel strongly about. For me, it is a balancing act. I am very passionate about my causes so here, I balance to the side of civility since email does not give you that eye to eye thing that is so wonderful about debate for me. But you know I love this place. So I will take Louis on. It is not no cost it low cost. Everything has a cost. Is that esoteric enough for you my grinchy friend. Happy Christmas Eve to all that celebrate, to those that don't have some fun anyways.
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Post by havingfunnow on Jan 1, 2009 10:55:51 GMT -5
I never knew you were into blood sport Connie. You know me, I will take on almost any subject I feel strongly about. For me, it is a balancing act. I am very passionate about my causes so here, I balance to the side of civility since email does not give you that eye to eye thing that is so wonderful about debate for me. But you know I love this place. So I will take Louis on. It is not no cost it low cost. Everything has a cost. Is that esoteric enough for you my grinchy friend. Happy Christmas Eve to all that celebrate, to those that don't have some fun anyways. So Eileen, are you suggesting that the name of this board be changed to "It's Really Cheap" or "It's Low Cost" I distinctly remember how much it COST me to join this board, and ITS FREE!
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Post by Connie on Jan 5, 2009 18:02:35 GMT -5
So Eileen, are you suggesting that the name of this board be changed to "It's Really Cheap" or "It's Low Cost" I distinctly remember how much it COST me to join this board, and ITS FREE! Okay.. it's been a long day here so it could just be me.. but what does this MEAN? LOL.... Eileen.. "no holds barred".. means just that.. Civility reigns over the rest of the board regardless of this section.. I should have asked before Louis.. but what do you mean "they won't let you play" at scam.com? If you need help.. I have power... don't know why anyone would WANT to join since us mods are pretty much giving up but that's a whole other thread.
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Post by tara on Jan 5, 2009 21:24:10 GMT -5
okay I have to ask what is scam.com? Obviously I am far to lazy to type it in and check it out.
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Post by havingfunnow on Jan 6, 2009 0:00:57 GMT -5
tara, Scam.com is one of the sites that people report companies that they say are scams. Then others refute their claims. The posts get pretty hot and heavy, and insults fly back and forth. Lots of fun ... to watch. I really enjoy when a site (you pay to join) is exposed as a scam, and all of the company's affiliates rush in to say that it is not a scam. These affiliates make money when they get people to join, and having their little world exposed is bad business for them. So others rush in and say yes the company is a scam, and the war begins! It really gets funny when the affiliates cannot provide proof of payment from the company they ardently defend (One reason that proof of payment is asked for here). I could post that I made $2,126.59 taking surveys from havingfunnow.com last month, but does that make it true? No, but the affiliates do things like that at scam.com all the time. Don't get me wrong, there is nothing wrong with affiliate marketing, but I think that one should be an affiliate for a reputable company, not a company you have to lie for. And reputable companies do not really get called scams too often, although problems can occur with any site. The reason I say they won't let me play there, is that I have never joined scam.com to post. This was the first site that I felt at home, and I went to many sites before I found this one. I still go to other sites in my research of ways to generate income from home. Hope this answers your question, Louis If you decide to visit scam.com, it is not to difficult to figure out who Connie is...LOL I wonder how long before godaddy buys havingfunnow.com
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Post by tara on Jan 6, 2009 0:22:39 GMT -5
Now I have to go look- I love some conflict, lol.
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Post by tara on Jan 6, 2009 0:23:30 GMT -5
I'm an ass-
thank you for answering my question : )
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